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Submitted by Rich Shires on

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...was only eight years old when brother (four years older) and I dug frozen chickens - "plymouth rock" out of the snow; cut bristles off of Dad's paint brush and crudely attached them to a worm hook. A lifetime hobby began. Dad always fished wets - always three - two droppers and a point and any other way was treason. Beautiful page, wonderful photography and comments. Thank you so much!

Submitted by Clyde E. Pullen on

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Wow. What a great chart. Very helpful. Thanks.
In His Love,
Clyde

Hum seabass, unfortunately I do not have many seabss picks. that's because whilst fishing from a belly boat in salt water the change of damaging my camera is very high. lpus my computer died on me recently and most of my fishing pictures were on it.
But I do have one seabass pick on teh computer, it was my very first one!

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Great sport, can't wait till next year.
for now just some small pike to be caught :)

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[quote:17a90fdfd2="Wiggy"]So what saltwater resistant hooks are you danish guys using?[/quote:17a90fdfd2]

I personally love the Kamasan B170 and B175 hooks for almost all my flies. Their B800 and B820 are nice long shank streamer hooks, and other Kamasan hooks can be found in my boxes too. But... they rust! Even though they are very durable, they will eventually rust in my experience. I never rinse my flies after fishing, so I expect that to happen. I used to, but honestly: they are worn down anyway by my low backcasts, rocks, weed and sometimes even fish. I use them and trash them when they're too lousy. I'd rather tie new and fresh ones than spend time trying to preserve the old ones.

The only hooks that don't rust in my boxes are genuinly stainless steel hooks. I have several Partridge models that I like as well as a couple from Tiemco, and flies tied on these hooks will last longer, but still wear down, stain and eventually dissolve. I also think that stainless hooks tend to either be brittle and break or be soft and bend.

That might be the reason that I often prefer heavy wire hooks.

To conclude: I shop around and use what I like and can get my hands on.

Martin

Submitted by Clyde E. Pullen on

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Martin, Dog, Cat, horse mane... When we brush our long haired cat, Princes, I save the fur, tie with it and call these "Princes Flies!" I've been wanting to get a couple of those "Long Haired" dog they show on the Dog Shows [one black, one white, one brown,.....]. Ever thought of going to the "Dog Groomers" and collecting the "Cuttings of the day." Yes, you would have to wash it, dry it, but what a good source of "dubbing" and tails. What do you think???
Keep your line wet, man.
In His Love,
Clyde

Submitted by Clyde E. Pullen on

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Martin, Now... That's a Pike! Arms tired?
Martin, when did you say I was invited to share your boat, was it Nov. or Dec. '07???? Can't remember, [must be gettig old...****/##]
KEEP YOUR LINE WET!!!
In His Love,
Clyde

Submitted by Clyde E. Pullen on

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Great comments guys.
I saw an article [source?] on eyes and will pass it on. You need boiling water and ice water. Take a 100 # Mono and wrap it a dozen times around 1/4" or larger wooden dowel. Hold it tight and dip it into the boiling water for 10-20 seconds [maybe longer, can't remember] -- then dip it into the ice water!! The Mono will take the shape of a coiled spring as it hardens. Now cut one "Coil", hold with hemostats, seperate a little and melt ends for the eye balls. If you do it correctly, it will melt back and you will have two eyes -- on the end of a "horse shoe." Mount the center of the horseshoe on your hook and you have two big beautiful eyes looking back at you!!! Go fish.
Keep on innovating.
Keep your line wet.
In His Love,
Clyde

Submitted by Clyde E. Pullen on

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Kasper, Thanks again for the "worm." The fly tangling on the cast seems to always be a problem with longer patterns. Even Decievers, Zonkers, and Double Bunnies have this same problem. That's why the standard lengths of 1/2 to 1 1/2 XX the hook length for the extention [past the hook bend] is recommended as a basic design for all patterns. I don't know of a basic "tying" solution [outside of installing a "weed guard" on the hooks]. However, if you do a simple "barrel roll" cast it will keep the fly straight and working properly. Problem: You can't cast it very far. Someday, Someday, some of you smart guys will find a solution and we will all smack ourselves in the head and say, "WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT!"
KEEP YOUR LINE WET!
In His Love,
Clyde

Submitted by Clyde E. Pullen on

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Kasper, what great patterns and account. I like both patterns. Thanks.
Butch, I too would like your '97 Honey Shrimp -- or publish the pattern here or e-mail me??? Thanks.
Shrimp patterns are time consuming to tie --but well worth it when you spend those precious few hours on the water! Some of our shrimp [in Mississippi, USA] are almost clear and small [hook14-20], some tan, others brown, some molted of 3-4 colors or light pink. I'll have to get busy at the vise.
Some times I like my shrimp heavily weighted, and at other times -- with just enough [5-10 rounds of non-lead wire] to allow it to sink slowly. Boy, what fun.
KEEP YOUR LINE WET!!!
In His Love,
Clyde

I've now done a large purchase of owner hooks from dk. Can't wait to start filling up my fly box with flies that'll last longer than just a few trips and'll stay sharp longer too.

I've had really bad experiences with Mustad hooks being blunt very quickly. Is this just me?

Submitted by mark l. binder on

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thanx for posting these pix!! i have been living in sarasota, florida, since '82 and was showing my son thomas some pix of the beaverkill and my beloved painter's bend, and discovered this site!!

i was unemployed for the summer of '80 and spent almost every day on painter's bend...

great pix, and millions of memories!!

Owner are definately the dogs 'potatoes', I use triples for tube flies and larger singles for lefty's/Rune's decievers. Though I haven't seen a Owner hook that works for either shrimps or magnus/frede.

I've bad experience with many different bronzed hooks in the salt, so I'm now only going to use hooks that are perfect to the salt.

As regards sizes, I use everything from size 2 to size 16. The 2's for larger herring flies down to 16's for smaller beach grouse/scuds. It all depends on what the sea trout are feeding on.

Congrats on your first SØ feridun......one of many I hope. My catches have been bad recently, but am expecting they pick up soon :roll:

Thanks for all the advice!

Hi Feridun,

There is no need to thank me. You caught the fish and deserve the credit.
It's nice to hear that you used a size 12. Most would shudder at such a small fly and the rest would not believe that a 12 would stand up to sea trout.

If you just consider the size of natural shrimps and scuds that sea trout feed on then a anything from a size 10 through to a 16 would be more fitting. By using a smaller hook, you won't loose more fish.

67cm is a very nice sea trout. I can imagine the moment. Did sweat run down your back and your mouth dry up?

The smallest hook I have ever used at the coast was a 16. It was a scud pattern, in fact a Czech nymph pattern designed for streams but I presented it to a sea trout feeding in cm's of water. I downed the tippet to a .16mm and took the trout. A 51cm coloured fish last year. I didn't even get my waders or boots wet that day.

Anyway...I am really pleased for you.

Perhaps now, some of the critics will be convinced that a hook size 2 and 4 is over kill - at least for sea trout.

It's not the size that counts but what you can do with it :D

Ripley.

Submitted by Dennis Martin on

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Great. My son sent it to me and I appreciate it. He just caught several over 20 on the Snake in Idaho using the Zuddler. I live in Henderson, KY and plan on tying some of the Zuddlers to try on the Cumberland River below Wolf Creek Dam.

Hei Wiggy :wink:

Look here is something about the hooks:
[url]http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/hooks.htm[/url]

I am using in Stavanger coasts always "Daiichi" Hooks. They are really sharp and strong.
[url]http://www.anglersportgroup.com/products_detail.asp?ID=331&CatID=4&SubC…]
(I`m tying only wet flies on it)

After (DistantStreams) Ripley`s posting about pattern sizes :idea: I bought hooks in size [b:21073b9814]12[/b:21073b9814]
I startet to tie wet flies on it and I have caught last week my first seatrout (67 cm) with hook size [b:21073b9814]12[/b:21073b9814] He was right! [color=blue:21073b9814]
[Thanx Ripley] [/color:21073b9814]

[size=9:21073b9814]PS: If the hooks are saltwater resist or not I wash them after fishing.[/size:21073b9814]

Greetz from Stavanger to Mandal :D

Submitted by Theo Kiers on

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Hi Martin,

I am sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to. It was just that I really wanted to read more about the subject and then all of a sudden the popunders were popping up all over my screen. I wrote the comment in the heat of the moment just after killing the umteenth popup. I should have waited 5 minutes.

The most important part of my comment is the last sentence though. I do think (as a fellow designer of sorts) that this site is awsome.

I have visited quite a few Fly Fishing sites lately after dusting of my fly rod that I bought as a teenager on a holiday in Scotland with two mates, some 30 years ago. I had never used the rod. I don't think I even cought a single fish with it. But now the fly fever has gotten to me. And I must say I can't get enough of this site. Keep up the good work.

Theo

p.s. I corrected the typo in the previous emailaddress.

Submitted by Malcolm Campbell on

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I use a pair of hemostats & use a lighter to burn both ends & make a pair at a time

looks like this O---O works very well on spent mayflies, shrimp or almost any nymph critter

Submitted by Rick Boccaccio on

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Nice article. Do you have any experience with Whiting Bird Fur? Could you please e-mail me your source for marabou.

Thanks,
Rick B.

Martin

Loop do a table of length of head of their custom series vs. length/AFTM rating of rods which should be available on their website - unfortunately they don't specify weights. Can anyone help in that regard?

David

Martin,

The weights quoted in the article are for single-handed rods - have you any advice for head weights to match AFTM ratings for double-handed rods?

Submitted by Neil Nice 1737246399 on

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This is a Rudd, and in particular it is a Golden Rudd, don't see too many of them these days.

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